A professional chemist doing for profit chemistry is not a hobbyist

Earlier this week Greg Laden posted an intriguing article, Home Chemistry Hobbyist Shut Down in Massachusetts. He had picked up on this story via a post at the MAKE magazine Blog, Home science under attack. Both of the blogs where basing their commentary on this one article from the August 9th edition of the Worcester Telegram & Gazette. Let me start by summarizing the story as reported by two local newspapers, see the links below for the full text of the seven newspaper articles I found.

On the afternoon of August 5th 2008 the Marlborough Massachusetts Fire Department responded to a call of a fire in a two story house on Fremont Street. When they arrived they found a fire in a window air conditioner of a second floor bedroom and the lone occupant of the house at the time, homeowner Victor Deeb, had safely gotten out. The firemen put the fire out in about a minute but by that time there was more than a thousand dollars worth of smoke damage to the bedroom.  [updated 8/18 with information from Mr. Deeb’s comment] If this had happened to me I would have turned off the power to the air conditioner and put the fire out with a fire extinguisher avoiding the major smoke damage from waiting for the fire department to arrive. Since Mr. Deeb is a 71 year old who uses a cane to get around it is perfectly understandable why he called the fire department instead. [Mr. Deeb was trying to use a fire extinguisher on the fire when a passing Policeman saw the smoke and called the fire department.] (Photo of Mr. Deeb speaking to Police after the fire was put out, from The MetroWest Daily News)

The firefighters then followed standard procedures and checked that all the spaces in the house had been ventilated to remove the smoke and prevent further damage. When they went down into the basement they discovered a chemical R&D laboratory containing more than 100 unlabeled containers of chemicals [Mr. Deeb seems to dispute this]. The chemicals where in assorted containers from quart size up to 20 gallon drums some on shelves and some just sitting on the basement floor. Fire department officials attempted to find permits issued to Mr. Deeb for the storage of large quantities of chemicals but where unable to find any permits. The fire department then contacted the state fire marshal’s office who in turn called in the state bomb squad. If Mr. Deeb had obtained permits for possessing large quantities of chemicals they could have avoided the bomb squad but without the permits they had to take the safe approach and treat this as a potentially dangerous situation in a residential neighborhood. At no time did the authorities claim that Mr. Deeb was making weapons or drugs they simply had no way to know what was in the containers and without permits they could not simply take Mr. Deeb’s word for it that these unlabeled chemicals were not dangerous.

The Fire Department advised Mr. Deeb that this situation would take many hours to clear up so he should find a place to stay for a while. Mr. Deeb took the advise of the fire department and left with his family. Over the next two days the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection and local authorities, with the cooperation of Mr. Deeb, removed over 1,500 containers of chemicals none of which turned out to be a biological or radioactive risk. Mr. Deeb and his family were allowed to return to their home on August 8th after the laboratory was safely dismantled and taken away. A hazardous materials cleanup company was contracted by MA DEP to test and then properly dispose of the chemicals. The Marlborough Department of Public Works is running tests to make sure none of the chemicals seeped into the town sewer system. While Mr. Deeb has likely violated numerous state and local safety regulations and laws, as of Saturday the 9th no citations had yet been issued.

This Saturday’s (8/16) Worcester Telegram & Gazette article has more details about the incident. The FBI showed up to take a look and there were thirty-five 20 gallon drums of chemicals that the hazmat contractor had to take for analysis and disposal. His laboratory was a mess with flammable chemicals stored next to the home’s furnace. By his own admission Mr. Deeb is a retired chemist who was very clearly running a for profit chemical R&D laboratory out of his basement in a residential neighborhood. He is considering suing the city for taking down his lab because he thinks his civil rights have been violated.

IMO, the fire department and other city and state officials did absolutely nothing wrong. They certainly did not violate Mr. Deeb’s civil rights because there is no civil right to possess and improperly store large quantities of regulated chemicals in your home. The officials had every right to enter his lab without a search warrant because they were called to the home by him [there] to put out a fire.

Mr. Deeb may be a very good chemist in fact judging by the number of patents he appears on it is almost a certainty. He has clearly been running a business from his home at least since 11/1/98. However he clearly does not understand laboratory safety rules, you must always properly label and store chemicals. Flammable chemicals like the acetone he had must be stored in fire proof cabinets not sitting on the floor or shelf and/or near a furnace. Mr. Deeb could not handle a small fire without the assistance of the fire department so obviously he couldn’t be trusted to handle a laboratory fire. He appears to not understand the need for permits and zoning clearance for commercial chemical research laboratories.

The reaction on the Internet is so far over the top I’m astounded. It seems that most of the people commenting on this story have made no effort to read the articles and are simply jumping to totally absurd conclusions based on preconceived notions. Here’s a list of my responses to the wild commentary and claims that are spreading across the Internet.

  1. Mr. Deebs was not a hobbyist, he freely admits this was a for profit R&D laboratory. Even without his admission the fact that he had hundreds of containers of chemicals including 35 twenty gallon drums puts him way beyond the hobbyist level.
  2. The government did not target Mr. Deeb in any way, they came to his aid when he called [put out a fire] and found him violating safety and zoning regulations.
  3. No government agency is going to come to your house because you gave your child a home chemistry set for Christmas.
  4. Having retail containers of household chemicals is not equivalent to having large quantities of industrial chemicals.
  5. The City Government of Marlborough Massachusetts is in no way comparable to the Nazi’s. Oh and it’s spelled Marlborough not Marlboro, that’s a brand of cigarettes.
  6. Thomas Edison did not set up laboratories in residential neighborhoods, he knew what he was doing could be hazardous so his laboratories where in private compounds and/or industrial districts.
  7. The police did not raid Mr. Deeb’s home, they did not kick down his door.
  8. Doing scientific research on a home computer is in no way even remotely equivalent to running an R&D laboratory with large quantities of chemicals.
  9. There was no fourth amendment violation, see number two above.
  10. That he has not yet been charged is not proof he didn’t break laws.
  11. This incident will not lead to the government burning our books.
  12. Mr. Deeb is not even remotely like a terrorist, any mention of 9/11 is absolutely ridiculous.
  13. Football is in no danger of being banned.
  14. Marlborough Massachusetts is not a police state.
  15. This is not equivalent to the two Steve’s founding Apple Computer in a garage, Woz is far too intelligent to improperly label and store large quantities of industrial chemicals.
  16. Ditto for Hewlett and Packard.
  17. Practicing putting in your living room, baking cookies for church, scrap booking and doing transcriptions are not even remotely similar to what Mr. Deeb did.
  18. The citizens of Massachusetts have rights, in fact we have some rights most other states do not grant to their citizens. e.g. Marrying the person you want to.
  19. This is not like outlawing innovation.
  20. Mr. Deeb did NOT take proper laboratory safety precautions, unlabeled and improperly stored containers is very bad.
  21. Building your own PC and running Linux on it are not going to get you into the trouble Mr. Deeb is in.
  22. The safety of Mr. Deeb’s neighbors IS the responsibility of the government.
  23. Mr. Deeb was not picked on because he was racially profiled as being of Middle Eastern descent.
  24. A hobbyist darkroom in your home is not equivalent to a R&D laboratory. A commercial darkroom on the other hand is regulated in similar ways to a R&D chemical lab.
  25. There were dangerous chemicals in Mr. Deeb’s laboratory by his own admission there was acetone. What the government officials have said is there where no biological or radiological hazards and no exceptionally explosive chemicals.
  26. Mr. Deeb did not give the fire fighters an inventory of the chemicals in his laboratory. Either he did not have an inventory or he wanted them to have to call in the bomb squad and hazmat teams, I’m guessing he didn’t have an inventory list.
  27. Making beer in your basement for personal use is not like a commercial research chemical laboratory.

I know it’s hard to research stories but that doesn’t excuse people from the obligation to examine the evidence. I’m most disappointed that so many people jump right to parroting the poorly researched and quote mined work of others to justify their preconceived notions. Any of these people who have integrity should take the time to read the articles, Google Victor M. Deeb and then post updates to correct their bogus reporting.

I have found one well researched response on the net, Mike O’Risal’s post is a very good read. Having read a number of excellent posts and comments by Mike over the past year, today I’ve added his blog to my reader and blogroll. On top of his good writing I need to start reading him regularly because he lives in my county, Worcester (pronounced Woostah in my native Yankee accent).

I’m sorry that Mr. Deeb has lost his R&D laboratory and likely will close his business. However, he should have followed the rules for running a commercial laboratory and gotten the proper permits and zoning variances. He may be ignorant of the law but that is not a valid excuse especially when you are running a for profit business.

The MetroWest Daily News articles:

Worcester Telegram & Gazette articles:

Victor Deeb’s business:

11 Replies to “A professional chemist doing for profit chemistry is not a hobbyist”

  1. Mr. Paul Hutchinson Please let me from where you acquired your chemistry degree, and are you aware that if more like you are exist, we would not have a light bulb(Thomas Edison started in his basement / Garage) nor would we have a PC (Steve Job and Bill Gates started in their basement / garage)
    The most recent project i was working on is the elimination of BisPheol A / BisPhenol F, Pthaltes from baby food, and eliminating Dioxin (a potent carcinogen) from the environment, generated when Food jar closures are melted to recover the metal. No self respecting supplier would ship Hazardous, toxic, flammable to a resident, or no shipper, UPS, DHL, OR federal express would deliver toxic hazardous flammable to a resident, All FDA compliant for food contact samples provided by reputable suppliers were labeled and the only not labeled but marked were containers that I carried my experiment in. I have submitted samples to potential customers and was looking to partner with someone, in an appropriate facilities, that will provide a job to a chemist, but naive people or properly educated destroyed everything, Including Spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, I have made MSDS available to authorities but they were more interested in justifying their jobs and the inadequacies and poor qualification.
    I did not phone the fire Dep., a policeman on his motorcycle saw the smoke and phoned the fire and forced me out of the house as I was trying to use a fire extinguisher.
    So please in the future check the facts before you bellicose on your blog

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  2. Thanks for commenting it’s good to get the extra information (I’m going to ignore your ad homenim attacks and arguments from authority).

    All my information came from the only sources available to me on this topic, the seven newspaper articles. I’ve updated the post to reflect this new information.

    Since you are not disputing any of the other information from the newspaper reports I must assume they are accurate. If you have further information please post a comment and I’ll update the post as necessary.

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  3. Please read what I have chronicled below and advise if my civil rights have been violated, It would help if someone had a chemistry background before casting a question upon what I was doing.

    On Aug. 5 about 11 AM Officer Pacific of the Marlborough, Ma. police Dep. while riding his motorcycle on Fremont St. Marlborough Ma. noticed that smoke was coming out of a window air conditioner in my wife’s bedroom, he phoned the fire Dep. and got me out of the house, in a pajama bottom, T shirt and no shoes, The fire Dep. put out the fire within minutes of their arrival, and in their effort to eliminate the possibility that the electrical fire started in the basement, the firemen entered my basement and found my lab. With (Labeled) samples, all over, on shelves, on tables and some on the floor, some Jars, quart cans and vials, marked but not labeled, that I carried my experiments in, Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS), Technical Data Sheets (TDS) and spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties.
    The fire department not knowing what the samples represented, and fearing the worst, contacted the code enforcement office of The City of Marlborough, Ma. (Ms Pamela Wilderman) a code enforcement officer who is a theater major, with no science training at all.
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/09/09/she_keeps_an_eye_on_citys_eyesores
    It is claimed that I may have violated zoning laws, which is contrary to;
    http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/40a-9.htm
    How did Thomas Edison, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs get started? Is it not in their basement / garages? Why am I being singled out crucified and have 20 years of my life / work and efforts to help others down the drain?
    I met with Ms Wilderman and her associate (Deirdre O’Connor M.S.) In my hotel room and I explained that there was no more toxic, hazardous, or flammable material, in my lab. than found in any home.
    Materials found in ANY home, such as Bleach, solvents in surface cleaner, window glass cleaners, rubbing alcohol, finger nail polish and finger nail polish remover, hydrogen peroxide, paints and drain cleaners, are more volatile, hazardous, and flammable than anything found in my lab.
    The state police office of the state fire marshal of which Trooper Sean P. Sullivan interviewed me and asked me to sign a document giving the state permission to renter my home at any time, which I refused to sign, Trooper Sullivan remained around for the following three days, constantly in and out of my house, without a court order or my permission.
    The emergency response of Ma. Dep. Of environment protection waste site clean up, of whom Mr. Nicholas J. Child (Section Chief) and William J. Phillips (Branch chief), visited me in my hotel room, and I explained to them what I was working on in details, at which time Mr. Child asked me if I was in a position to afford removing all items from my lab, and I said NO!, filled out a form handed to me and left. Apparently Mr. Child contracted with New England Disposal Technology, Inc. of which Mr. Michael F. Sabo who is its field operation manager, without a court order.
    .
    Is it not illegal for the state to enter and dismantle my lab and remove my samples and 20 years of my life without a court order, in the presence of a lawyer representing my interest?
    If this could happen to me, what about ANY creative inventor with the desire to create
    Unfortunately I do not have the resources at this time to pursue a legal way to recover my last 20 years, unless some attorney agree to take this on contingency

    On Aug. 8, I was informed by the City of Marlborough Fire Chief David Adams, that I was permitted to return to my home. Upon my return to my home, I realized that my work for the last 20 years has been dismantled, destroyed and removed including Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS), Technical Data Sheets (TDS) and spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, upon my contacting Mr. Child of the emergency response section chief, some of the MSDS and TDS were returned to me by Mr. Child but NO! Spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, and said that they may be in the FBI’s possession.
    Chief Adams of the Marlborough,Ma.fire Dep. was kind enough to send the assistant fire chief to help me locate spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, NON were found in the basement / lab. nor the garage.

    My desire to help the environment led to my interest in the recycling of used Rubber tires, by reclaiming / recycling, instead of burning for fuel which generates toxic hazardous fumes. Samples of ground rubber tire were among the samples removed from my lab.
    Currently there are 3 ways to recycled rubber tire:
    1) Brute force, by passing chopped rubber tire between 2 counter rotating cylinders driven by very high horsepower motors, which produces particle of 40 Mesh at best, the higher the mesh the smaller the particle size, the more acceptable it is for recycling into virgin tires or as asphalt modifier.
    2) The Cryogenic process which uses liquid nitrogen to cool the rubber and upon impact particles as small as 300 mesh could be produced, the weight of liquid nitrogen per weight of rubber required, makes the Cryogenic process economically prohibitive.
    3) The wet process implemented by The Rouse Rubber Co. Of Mississippi, which utilizes a way to grind chips from used tires under water, to as low as 200 Mesh economically.
    My interest in the wet process led to my association with The Rouse Rubber Co. as a consultant and eventually to the formation of a partnership under the name of R. & D. Technology Inc. (Rouse & Deeb) and:
    PAT. NO.Title
    1 6,815,510 Elastomer reclaiming composition and method
    2 6,743,836 Method for predispersing compounding ingredients
    3 6,680,110 Particle size reduction using supercritical materials
    4 6,663,954 Method of reducing material size
    5 6,426,136 Method of reducing material size
    6 6,333,373 Ground elastomer and method
    7 6,238,448 Grinding stones

    Prior to my association with the wet process, they used a 20% slurry in the grinding process, which was increased to 40% with an additive i identified.
    Prior to my association with the wet process, they could not grind Butyl inter tubes or tire molding bladders without an additive I identified Hence the presence of various additives in my lab
    In an effort to identify ways to enhance the acceptability / recycling of wet process ground rubber by the host compound such as tire compounds or as a modifier for asphalt, paving or roofing, I investigated many potential binders / additives.
    Of the binders / additives investigated certain type of polyurethane chemistry was identified as lending themselves to this application. Water dispersions of such Polyurethane chemistry, were obtained and evaluated as binders for ground rubber tire with success. Fearing that the cost of the specific Polyurethane chemistry dispersion may become an obstacle for adding such polyurethane dispersions to the wet process, I acquired various latexes (Such as Neroprene SBR, acrylic, ect.) and investigated minimum Polyurethane dispersion required to maintain binding capacity of the ground rubber tire, Hence the presence of various Latexes / polymer dispersion in my lab.
    My interest in utilizing an alternative way to enhancing various processes of reclaiming scrap tires, I identified certain additives that enhance the effectiveness, a process that utilizes much less energy. a water soluble solvent, and a peroxide (NOT HYDROGEN PEROXIDE FOUND IN MOST HOMES) but peroxide with a 300 to 400 dF decomposition temp. Hence the presence of Dicumyl peroxide, Ter-Butyl perbenzoate and 2,5-Dimethyl-2,5-di(tert-butylperoxy) hexane, and water soluble solvents in my lab. Which are safe enough to be approved for food contact applications by the FDA.

    My interested in renewable resources led me to evaluate vegetable oils as a component of modifier for asphalt. Vegetable oil when combined with petroleum derived di-functional monomer and a catalyst, subjected, in a batch or continuous way in a reactor I developed using my enhanced process, will produce syrup, which will finish the polymerization process using asphalt’s melting heat / energy. Hence the presence of various vegetable oils in my lab.

    The identification of BisPhenol A, BisPhenol F and Pthalates in baby foods, from coatings, sealants and Dioxin (a potent carcinogen) from the degradation of Poly vinyl chloride (PVC) Plastisol sealant, upon reclaiming the steel from food jar metal closures, has led me to recognize an opportunity to help humanity in general and children in particular, and embarked on a project to develop a NO BisPhenol A, BisPhenol F liquid coating that can be applied using existing methods and converted using existing equipment, temp / time. Utilizing a modified Vegetable oil, oligomers and peroxides complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 are under consideration by European and domestic companies.
    I have also a NO PVC, NO PHTHALATES closure sealant based on oligomers antioxidant and a catalyst complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 ready for sampling. Hence the presence of modified vegetable oil, oligomers and powdered antioxidant complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 in my lab.How could whatever found in my Lab be toxic, or hazardous if approved by the FDA for FOOD contact

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  4. If you would done a more diligent UNBIASED search you would realize that your posting is full of errors

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  5. I’ll address your long rambling comment when I have time this weekend.

    As to your second comment, since you have provided no specifics and no references I have no idea what your talking about. If you will be specific I will verify what you say and if verifiable I’ll change what I’ve written.

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  6. am a chemist with a B.S. degree and advanced courses in polymer chemistry, with nearly 40 years of experience in industry, upon my early retirement I initiated an effort to continue my work, by tinkering in my basement.
    In my basement / lab. I have carried out work as described below to support my consulting efforts.

    On Aug. 5 2008 about 11 AM Officer Pacific of the Marlborough, Ma. police Dep. while riding his motorcycle on Fremont St. Marlborough Ma. noticed that smoke was coming out of a window air conditioner in my wife’s bedroom, he phoned the fire Dep. and got me out of the house, in a pajama bottom, T shirt and no shoes, The fire Dep. put out the fire within minutes of their arrival, and in their effort to eliminate the possibility that the electrical fire started in the basement, the firemen entered my basement under the disguise that they were looking for the source of the fire and the electrical board, when the electrical board was obviously obvious from the open garage door, and found my lab. With (Labeled) samples, all over, on shelves, on tables and some on the floor, some Jars, quart cans and vials, marked but not labeled, that I carried my experiments in, Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS), Technical Data Sheets (TDS) and spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties.
    The fire department not knowing what the samples represented, and fearing the worst, elevated my situation to Tier 3, when every firemen i have consulted, in Marlborough, state of Ma. and else where (nationwide) , said it should not been any more than a Tier 1. because no Firemen had any education in chemistry. toxicity, and hazard of materials, If Tier 3 was justified then why all those 55 gal. drums containing alleged hazardous materials left in the RAIN was allowed to fill most of the drums as witnessed by neighbors, and where are the pictures of hazard, toxic, flammable materials in my lab.
    Contacted the code enforcement office of The City of Marlborough, Ma. (Ms Pamela Wilderman) a code enforcement officer who is a theater major, with no science training at all.
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/09/09/she_keeps_an_eye_on_citys_eyesores
    It is claimed that I may have violated zoning laws, which is contrary to;
    http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/40a-9.htm

    I met with Ms Wilderman and tried to explain to her what was in my Lab., but admittedly she did not understand because she had no technical training, i met her and and her associate (Deirdre O’Connor M.S.) again In my hotel room and I explained that there was no more toxic, hazardous, or flammable material, in my lab. than found in any home.
    Materials found in ANY home, such as Bleach, solvents in surface cleaner, window glass cleaners, rubbing alcohol, finger nail polish and finger nail polish remover, hydrogen peroxide, paints and drain cleaners, are more volatile, hazardous, and flammable than anything found in my lab.
    The state police office of the state fire marshal of which Trooper Sean P. Sullivan interviewed me and asked me to sign a document giving the state permission to renter my home at any time, which I refused to sign, Trooper Sullivan remained around for the following three days, constantly in and out of my house, without a court order or my permission.
    The emergency response of Ma. Dep. Of environment protection waste site clean up, of whom Mr. Nicholas J. Child (Section Chief) and William J. Phillips (Branch chief), visited me in my hotel room, and I explained to them what I was working on in details, at which time Mr. Child asked me if I was in a position to afford removing all items from my lab, and I said NO!, filled out a form handed to me and left. Apparently Mr. Child contracted with New England Disposal Technology, Inc. of which Mr. Michael F. Sabo who is its field operation manager, without a court order.
    .Mr Sabo and his crew proceeded to empty my lab of all container labeled, unlabeled but marked into 55 gal drums which were stored in my back yard in the open that accumulated significant rain water due to the rain storm that day
    Is it not illegal for the state to enter and dismantle my lab and remove my samples and 20 years of my life without a court order, in the presence of a lawyer representing my interest?

    On Aug. 8, I was informed by the City of Marlborough Fire Chief David Adams, that I was permitted to return to my home. Upon my return to my home, I realized that my work for the last 20 years has been dismantled, destroyed and removed including Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS), Technical Data Sheets (TDS) and spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, upon my contacting Mr. Child of the emergency response section chief, some of the MSDS and TDS were returned to me by Mr. Child but NO! Spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, and said that they may be in the FBI’s possession.
    Chief Adams of the Marlborough,Ma.fire Dep. was kind enough to send the assistant fire chief to help me locate spread sheets of my experiments, conditions, results, and observations, and any document that would allow me to protect my intellectual properties, NON were found in the basement / lab. nor the garage.

    My desire to help the environment led to my interest in the recycling of used Rubber tires, by reclaiming / recycling, instead of burning for fuel which generates toxic hazardous fumes. Samples of ground rubber tire were among the samples removed from my lab.
    Currently there are 3 ways to recycled rubber tire:
    1) Brute force, by passing chopped rubber tire between 2 counter rotating cylinders driven by very high horsepower motors, which produces particle of 40 Mesh at best, the higher the mesh the smaller the particle size, the more acceptable it is for recycling into virgin tires or as asphalt modifier.
    2) The Cryogenic process which uses liquid nitrogen to cool the rubber and upon impact particles as small as 300 mesh could be produced, the weight of liquid nitrogen per weight of rubber required, makes the Cryogenic process economically prohibitive.
    3) The wet process implemented by The Rouse Rubber Co. Of Mississippi, which utilizes a way to grind chips from used tires under water, to as low as 200 Mesh economically.
    My interest in the wet process led to my association with The Rouse Rubber Co. as a consultant and eventually to the formation of a partnership under the name of R. & D. Technology Inc. (Rouse & Deeb) and:
    PAT. NO.Title
    1 6,815,510 Elastomer reclaiming composition and method
    2 6,743,836 Method for predispersing compounding ingredients
    3 6,680,110 Particle size reduction using supercritical materials
    4 6,663,954 Method of reducing material size
    5 6,426,136 Method of reducing material size
    6 6,333,373 Ground elastomer and method
    7 6,238,448 Grinding stones

    Prior to my association with the wet process, they used a 20% slurry in the grinding process, which was increased to 40% with an additive i identified.
    Prior to my association with the wet process, they could not grind Butyl inter tubes or tire molding bladders without an additive I identified Hence the presence of various additives in my lab
    In an effort to identify ways to enhance the acceptability / recycling of wet process ground rubber by the host compound such as tire compounds or as a modifier for asphalt, paving or roofing, I investigated many potential binders / additives.
    Of the binders / additives investigated certain type of polyurethane chemistry was identified as lending themselves to this application. Water dispersions of such Polyurethane chemistry, were obtained and evaluated as binders for ground rubber tire with success. Fearing that the cost of the specific Polyurethane chemistry dispersion may become an obstacle for adding such polyurethane dispersions to the wet process, I acquired various latexes (Such as Neroprene SBR, acrylic, ect.) and investigated minimum Polyurethane dispersion required to maintain binding capacity of the ground rubber tire, Hence the presence of various Latexes / polymer dispersion in my lab.
    My interest in utilizing an alternative way to enhancing various processes of reclaiming scrap tires, I identified certain additives that enhance the effectiveness, a process that utilizes much less energy. a water soluble solvent, and a peroxide (NOT HYDROGEN PEROXIDE FOUND IN MOST HOMES) but peroxide with a 300 to 400 dF decomposition temp. Hence the presence of Dicumyl peroxide, Ter-Butyl perbenzoate and 2,5-Dimethyl-2,5-di(tert-butylperoxy) hexane, and water soluble solvents in my lab. Which are safe enough to be approved for food contact applications by the FDA.

    My interested in renewable resources led me to evaluate vegetable oils as a component of modifier for asphalt. Vegetable oil when combined with petroleum derived di-functional monomer and a catalyst, subjected, in a batch or continuous way in a reactor I developed using my enhanced process, will produce syrup, which will finish the polymerization process using asphalt’s melting heat / energy. Hence the presence of various vegetable oils in my lab.
    The identification of BisPhenol A, BisPhenol F
    http://greenopolis.com/myopolis/blogs/david+d/big-plastic-paid-off-the-fda
    http://www.chej.org/BPA_Website.htm

    and Pthalates in baby foods, from coatings, sealants and Dioxin

    Click to access Section3.pdf

    (the worst known toxin to man) from the degradation of Poly vinyl chloride (PVC) Plastisol sealant,
    http://hemporganic.com/PVC.htm
    upon reclaiming the steel from food jar metal closures, has led me to recognize an opportunity to help humanity in general and children in particular, and embarked on a project to develop a NO BisPhenol A, BisPhenol F liquid coating that can be applied using existing methods and converted using existing equipment, temp / time. Utilizing a modified Vegetable oil, oligomers and peroxides complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 are under consideration by European and domestic companies.
    I have also a NO PVC, NO PHTHALATES closure sealant based on oligomers antioxidant and a catalyst complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 ready for sampling. Hence the presence of modified vegetable oil oligomers and powder antioxidant complying with FDA 21 CFR 175.300 in my lab.

    Click to access 21cfr175.300.pdf

    How did Thomas Edison, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs get started? Is it not in their basement / garages?
    would we have a light bulb or PC’s if they were treated as I was.
    I would like you to identify the university those that invaded my basement / Lab graduated from with degrees in chemistry. toxicity, and hazard of materials, You and the others who INVADED my Lab. illegally, without a court order.under the disguise of looking for the electrical source of the air conditioner fire, when the electrical panel was obvious from the opened garage door

    I have an inventory of what was remove from my basement / Lab and garage ILLEGALLY, and I challenge the assertion that there was 1500 unlabeled samples without a court order,
    DOES THE POLICE, FIRE DEP. OR THE STATE HAVE ANY PICTURES TO JUSTIFY THEIR OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS YOU BLOGED ABOUT why no pictures?,
    Incompetent firemen elevated my situation to Tier 3, when every firemen i have consulted, in Marlborough, state of Ma. and else where (nationwide) , said it should not been any more than a Tier 1. is this the way you justify their jobs by escalating. when all are employed by the tax payer

    If all those 55 gal. drums contained hazardous materials then why RAIN was allowed to fill most of the drums as witnessed by neighbors.

    I was NEVER offered an opportunity to recover my 20 years of Composition, results, comments and observation , that would allow me to recover my intellectual property, by anyone, contrary to what Ms. Wilderman claims, please have MS Wilderman step forward with a witness who heard her make such an offer.
    Please Note my corrections to YOUR errors
    1. Mr. Deebs was not a hobbyist, he freely admits this was a for profit R&D laboratory. Even without his admission the fact that he had hundreds of containers of chemicals including 35 twenty gallon drums puts him way beyond the hobbyist level.
    Any pictures to confirm this claim ?
    2. The government did not target Mr. Deeb in any way, they came to his aid when he called [put out a fire] and found him violating safety and zoning regulations.

    If that is the true then why not did they seek a court order ?
    3. No government agency is going to come to your house because you gave your child a home chemistry set for Christmas.

    TRUE
    4. Having retail containers of household chemicals is not equivalent to having large quantities of industrial chemicals.
    OH AND YOU ARE A CHEMICAL EXPERT TO STATE THAT
    5. The City Government of Marlborough Massachusetts is in no way comparable to the Nazi’s. Oh and it’s spelled Marlborough not Marlboro, that’s a brand of cigarettes.

    Why not

    6. Thomas Edison did not set up laboratories in residential neighborhoods, he knew what he was doing could be hazardous so his laboratories where in private compounds and/or industrial districts.

    OH????

    7. The police did not raid Mr. Deeb’s home, they did not kick down his door.

    where is the court order and the PICTURES ?

    8. Doing scientific research on a home computer is in no way even remotely equivalent to running an R&D laboratory with large quantities of chemicals.

    So you think the pioneers of the PC did not have toxic, hazardous materials used in the preparation of printed circuit boards in those days ?
    9. There was no fourth amendment violation, see number two above.
    10. That he has not yet been charged is not proof he didn’t break laws.

    I just receive a certified letter from Ms. wilderman stating that I should not reconstitute my lab. In my present location
    11. This incident will not lead to the government burning our books.
    12. Mr. Deeb is not even remotely like a terrorist, any mention of 9/11 is absolutely ridiculous.
    13. Football is in no danger of being banned.
    14. Marlborough Massachusetts is not a police state.
    15. This is not equivalent to the two Steve’s founding Apple Computer in a garage, Woz is far too intelligent to improperly label and store large quantities of industrial chemicals.

    OH and you are an expert on this subject too?
    16. Ditto for Hewlett and Packard.
    17. Practicing putting in your living room, baking cookies for church, scrap booking and doing transcriptions are not even remotely similar to what Mr. Deeb did.
    18. The citizens of Massachusetts have rights, in fact we have some rights most other states do not grant to their citizens. e.g. Marrying the person you want to.

    Waht about my rights

    19. This is not like outlawing innovation.

    It sure deters it when the US need it THE most

    20. Mr. Deeb did NOT take proper laboratory safety precautions, unlabeled and improperly stored containers is very bad.

    and youa re an expert on taht as well?
    Pictures please !!
    21. Building your own PC and running Linux on it are not going to get you into the trouble Mr. Deeb is in.

    Not if Lenuz is NOT in the public domain

    22. The safety of Mr. Deeb’s neighbors IS the responsibility of the government.

    so is the safety of my family including my grand children ?

    23. Mr. Deeb was not picked on because he was racially profiled as being of Middle Eastern descent.

    what does that have to do with anything
    I believe you stepped out of line and libeled me according to US laws
    24. A hobbyist darkroom in your home is not equivalent to a R&D laboratory. A commercial darkroom on the other hand is regulated in similar ways to a R&D chemical lab.
    25. There were dangerous chemicals in Mr. Deeb’s laboratory by his own admission there was acetone. What the government officials have said is there where no biological or radiological hazards and no exceptionally explosive chemicals.

    I said that whatever I had in my lab was no more dangerous of acetone I never said that I had acetone in my lab.

    I have an inventory and ask you to provide evident please

    26. Mr. Deeb did not give the fire fighters an inventory of the chemicals in his laboratory. Either he did not have an inventory or he wanted them to have to call in the bomb squad and hazmat teams, I’m guessing he didn’t have an inventory list.

    That is an outright lie

    27. Making beer in your basement for personal use is not like a commercial research chemical laboratory.

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  7. I’ve read your writings here and on other internet sites and I feel that no good can come of engaging you in further discussion.

    If anyone else has questions or comments and presents them in a clear rational manner I will address them.

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  8. Sir,
    I am a professional fragrance chemist who works in my garage since I am limited in personal research at my employers laboratories. In my home lab I follow all safety, fire and environmental rules. That motivation is simple; I own my home. And my house and neighborhood is adjacent to an industrial zoned area. So how would you categorize my lab? If I am successful enough I may be able to add to my income. Then what? However profit is not the motivation I work at home. I desire the freedom to do my own exploration,at my expense, in my own home,without interference from the government.

    My neighbor across the street is a retired mechanic who has a repair business in his garage. The man needs the extra money so no one complains about it.
    Should he lose his tools if the fire department comes to put out a gasoline fire due to his unlicensed business? Should a painter lose his tools and business records if the fire company comes to put out a turpentine fire? Should you lose your home PC because the fire company puts out a paper fire? Who is it that chooses which private home enterprise is o.k. or not? Today people fear anything that has to do with chemistry because they are ignorant.
    In todays world chemistry is not taught the way it used to be for various reasons such as the probability of an accident which would lead to litigation. Another reason is how the subject is demonized by the environmental zealots. These people claim the chemical industry is still responsible for polluting the environment even though the air, water and land is cleaner than it was thirty years ago. Why? Not because of the EPA but because the chemical industry need customers to know chemistry is not a bad thing. Dow used to say “Better living through chemistry.” what happened to that? I read what deebs has done and admire him for all his accomplishments. He has done marvelous work which the government saw fit to patent. Mr deebs has good intentions which is obvious by the type of work he does. He dosen’t make drugs or bombs; he just minds his own business.

    Don’t sit in your office and judge someone in a different profession. Go and get a chemistry degree. Earn a living at it for a while before you judge.

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  9. Thanks for commenting, It doesn’t appear that you have bothered to read the seven newspaper articles from two different reporters at two different local newspapers that I linked in this post.

    I am a professional fragrance chemist who works in my garage since I am limited in personal research at my employers laboratories. In my home lab I follow all safety, fire and environmental rules.

    Very good if only Mr. Deeb had done the same he wouldn’t have been in so much trouble. I mean storing flammables next to a furnace and having hundreds of gallons of chemicals without inventory controls and safe storage are not even a remotely safe situation. Your situation appears to be far from equivalent, you are in an out building not a basement and you are following safety, fire and environmental rules (I’m assuming you actually understand the rules).

    That motivation is simple; I own my home. And my house and neighborhood is adjacent to an industrial zoned area. So how would you categorize my lab?

    It’s a bit hard to see what you’re getting at, if you think you are a hobbyist then you should open a few dictionaries and learn what the definition of the word is because you are clearly not a hobbyist by any definition of the term. You are running a small scale commercial research laboratory and you should have asked your city/town about the rules for running such.

    Since you are next to an industrial area it is quite possible you are already operating within the local laws (remember they vary from town to town). If you are in violation of zoning laws you may also easily get a variance from the town simply by asking and pointing out your proximity to an existing industrial zoned areas. You may have to get your neighbors to sign a petition saying they don’t mind the zoning change but other than that it is a fairly inexpensive process to get a zoning variation when your request is reasonable. Zoning changes and exceptions are granted all the time across this country as long as the affected parties are all OK with the changes. Zoning regulations are about keeping your neighbors happy and preventing you from compromising your neighbors property values and safety in their homes.

    Once you’ve gotten your business laboratory approved the local fire inspector will make periodic inspections of your lab. This will help guarantee the safety of your neighbors and any fire fighters who may someday be called upon to enter your lab.

    If I am successful enough I may be able to add to my income. Then what? However profit is not the motivation I work at home. I desire the freedom to do my own exploration,at my expense, in my own home,without interference from the government.

    As long as you’re neighbors are aware of what you are doing and do not feel you are compromising their property rights then that’s fine. Again it looks like you think this is a hobby and I will again ask you to crack open a dictionary and learn how most of the english speaking world interprets the word hobby.

    My neighbor across the street is a retired mechanic who has a repair business in his garage. The man needs the extra money so no one complains about it. Should he lose his tools if the fire department comes to put out a gasoline fire due to his unlicensed business?

    If none of the neighbors care then he should get himself a permit or zoning variation so that he is operating legally. If his motivation is to hide his income then of course that is a crime and he should be made to comply with the law. If he is storing large quantities of gasoline that is likely a problem, none of my friends and relatives who run and/or work in auto repair garages store large quantities of gasoline and they get regular visits from the fire inspector to make sure they are following the applicable fire safety rules. Even if the rules are violated their tools would not be confiscated because the tools are not dangerous to their neighbors. If they have large quantities of gasoline against local regulations then yes it will be confiscated to correct a situation that is potentially dangerous to the neighbors.

    Should a painter lose his tools and business records if the fire company comes to put out a turpentine fire? Should you lose your home PC because the fire company puts out a paper fire?

    Again tools are never confiscated in this situation as long as what you classify as tools are not actually potentially dangerous to the neighbors. As to business records, according to the news reports the authorities state there was no normal inventory available so they needed Mr. Deeb’s records to help sort out exactly what all those hundreds of gallons of materials where. Frankly anyone who keeps only a single copy of their important data in a single location gets absolutely no sympathy from me when they loose there records. It is common sense that you keep multiple copies of important records in multiple locations so that you don’t loose them all in a single incident.

    Who is it that chooses which private home enterprise is o.k. or not? Today people fear anything that has to do with chemistry because they are ignorant.

    You and the rest of the voters in your town choose what regulations are in place through the local/state/federal government. In all cases I’ve seen, this process includes industry professionals which is why my proffesion prevented regulations eliminating lead in solder years ago. If you are unhappy with the laws where you live then work to change them or move to a place without those laws. Simply whining about it like you are doing makes you look like a two year old throwing a temper tantrum. Your rights end where they violate my rights, period. If you are one of those selfish greedy scumbags who feels it is their right to infringe on my rights then fuck off and go live somewhere else. I won’t stand for a neighbor harming my property value or endangering the safety of my life and property just so they can do whatever they want.

    In todays world chemistry is not taught the way it used to be for various reasons such as the probability of an accident which would lead to litigation. Another reason is how the subject is demonized by the environmental zealots. These people claim the chemical industry is still responsible for polluting the environment even though the air, water and land is cleaner than it was thirty years ago. Why? Not because of the EPA but because the chemical industry need customers to know chemistry is not a bad thing. Dow used to say “Better living through chemistry.” what happened to that? I read what deebs has done and admire him for all his accomplishments. He has done marvelous work which the government saw fit to patent. Mr deebs has good intentions which is obvious by the type of work he does. He dosen’t make drugs or bombs; he just minds his own business.

    Don’t sit in your office and judge someone in a different profession. Go and get a chemistry degree. Earn a living at it for a while before you judge.

    Ah I’m right you are a greedy selfish bastard who feels it should be your right to harm me and not be held responsible. People like you are rightly stopped from harming others by the government. By your twisted logic you needed to get degrees in fire fighting, fire safety, property law and criminal law before you could make the comments you did above. Since you haven’t done that you are a hypocrit as well as a greedy selfish jerk. Don’t bother trying to post a further comment as I will remove or disemvowel it, scumbag.

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  10. I am very concerned that your civil rights were violated Victor. I hope you are planning a lawsuit.

    Listen, I am only a paralegal and am not soliciting you in anyway, but I’d sure like to point you in the right direction to an attorney who’ll set an example our right to privacy and work in our own homes without the fear mongering paranoia this nation has fallen under since 2000.

    My degrees are in biochemistry, electronical engineering, several post graduate computer programming certificates, and now paralegal. I am someone who would like to speak with you and help you out for the sake of liberty. If we let them get away with it, they will do it again and again. I have a quote from a Massachusetts judge related to another case that said having a lab in your house is not illegal at all.

    Acetone should be stored in a fireproof cabinet? Oh really? Mr. Hutchinon, take a walk through the paint isle at home depot and take a look at the hundreds of can of acetone, denatured alcohol, methyl-ethyl ketone, and other petroleum solvents. Do you have a gasoline canister in your gargage?

    Next we talk about if they had a warrant everything would have been fine. Really? What would be the basis for the probable cause on the warrant? Would the affiant actually say that he/she believes the person may be manufacturing illegal drugs? Is there any suspicion to support that? The closest thing you would have for probable cause of illegal activity is a possible zoning violation which is not criminal and cannot justify a criminal warrant search. At best the police should have knocked on the door the next day with the fire marshall and someone who knows their but from their elbow in hazardous chemicals and request to take a look when it is convenient for the home owner. They should have asked if there were any hazardous or illegal chemicals in the basement. You don’t just seize and ask questions later.

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  11. Thanks for commenting, it doesn’t look like you read the newspaper reports either, sigh. Please anyone else who wants to comment, read the newspaper articles first!

    Acetone should be stored in a fireproof cabinet? Oh really? Mr. Hutchinon, take a walk through the paint isle at home depot and take a look at the hundreds of can of acetone, denatured alcohol, methyl-ethyl ketone, and other petroleum solvents.

    According to the fire inspectors from the two towns my employer has been located in, yes you should store flammable chemicals in fire proof cabinets. Home Depot is commercially zoned, has special fire safety measures in place and is routinely inspected by the fire department, they aren’t operating out of basement in a residential neighborhood. If you put Home Depot’s inventory of flammable stuff in your basement without approval from the fire department you are dangerous. Doesn’t anyone other than me remember the basic fire safety training they got from the fire department when they were in elementary school.

    Do you have a gasoline canister in your gargage?

    Yes, but if I stored flammable chemicals in my basement by my heating furnace like Mr. Deeb is accused of doing that would be a huge potential hazard.

    It was reported and claimed by the authorities that Mr. Deeb had large quantities of chemicals stored in an unsafe manner. Maybe the authorities are lying or the multiple reporters from the different newspapers reported it wrong but, so far there is no evidence to suggest that, other than Mr. Deeb’s barely coherent rants on the internet.

    According to this 10/2 newspaper article, Mr. Deeb has an attorney now, Joseph F. Hennessey who says he will file a claim against the city within a few weeks.

    A few quotes from the 10/2 newspaper article:

    Yesterday a judge granted a preliminary injunction, preventing Mr. Deeb from operating a lab in his home that again would violate zoning, sanitary and fire regulations.

    The restraining order, issued temporarily on Sept. 22 and extended yesterday, could be lifted, depending on the outcome of the case. But the city is trying to shut down Mr. Deeb’s home lab for good, arguing that the presence of so many chemicals in a residential neighborhood is a public safety threat.

    His lab was discovered when firefighters went to his house Aug. 5 to extinguish a fire in an air conditioner in a second-floor window. Firefighters went to the basement with the intent of shutting off power to the house. In the basement, they found 1,500 vials, jars, cans, bottles and boxes of chemicals, stacked on shelves, on tables and on the floor. Many of the materials were unlabeled.

    The swift response to the discovery included a state hazardous materials team, dozens of local officials, the Department of Environmental Protection and the FBI. The DEP hired a cleanup company to remove everything that was hazardous and dispose of it. Mr. Deeb, his wife and his 18-year-old son were sent to a hotel, while crews spent three days moving some 35 drums of chemicals from their home.

    The cases will be heard in Middlesex Superior Court in Woburn. A court-issued timeline says the case must be resolved by July 14, 2010.

    I’m glad to see that this is going to be investigated, will it turn out the authorities overreacted and are lying or, was Mr. Deeb being irresponsible. I’ll be keeping an eye on this story to see what the court determines.

    It’s clear from your final comment paragraph you didn’t bother to read the stories and maybe not even my post. It’s also clear you think most public servants are stupid overreacting clowns. You’re entitled to your opinion but myself especially when it comes down to the Firemen, Fire Chiefs and the State Fire Marshall involved in this situation I believe them when they say they felt it was a dangerous situation. I happen to feel that Firemen who risk their lives to save our property and lives deserve a lot of slack in determining what is safe or not from a fire safety perspective.

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